So I’m assuming that Sinclair will be demanding that Tucker apologize and donate and that the FCC will be threatening to cancel his podcast.

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    If he ends up getting Kirked over this, I’ll gladly nudge him over the line to “on the right side of history”. Won’t mourn his passing though, he’s peddled enough bullshit to make himself irredeemable as decent human being.

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    “Finally! I’ve finished my kill-bot. Come, gather round, as I unveil it to the world”

    “But Professor Killington”

    “Yes, adorable, one-legged, orphan Timmy?”

    “Why did you make a kill-bot?”

    “Well, so it would indiscriminately murder anything and everything that moves, of course”

    “But professor, that sounds dangerous”

    “Don’t be a fucking retard Timmy. I know what I’m doing”

    “O-okay Professor”

    “Now everyone gather round as I turn on the killbot for the very first time, and be amazed as it makes me pancakes”

    flips switch

    “OH NO, STOP, STOP, STOP KILLING ME, KILL-BOT OH MY GOD, MY SPLEEN, OH, IF ONLY SOMEBODY COULD HAVE FORRSEEN THIS TERRIBLE TURN OF EVENTS”.

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      Timmy would go on to run for Congress on an anti killbot policy. He would lose to a bigoted blowhard who insisted on the right for all people to own killbots to make them pancakes.

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    Interesting. I don’t know who he is, but based on (part of) the Russian shopping video I saw of him yesterday, where he was excited at what everything a Russian supermarket has to offer, finally cumming into his pants after finding that Russia has bread, I wouldn’t expect much.

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      He was full strength fashy before 2021. He was the one floating a lot of these ideas to see how they play, like locking up your political rivals or news media.

      I suspect that it turned out that Carlson’s mean words towards his superiors at Fox News did him in more than anything. They held grudges after being called dumb fucking cunts or whatever and took the excuse to ask him.

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      Tucker’s a smart guy with a clever tongue. He can lay out an exhaustive, reasoned, rationalist case for basic civil liberties. And then he can come back a day later to lay out an exhaustive, reasoned, rationalist case against them.

      Just depends on which side of the line he’s standing. Dude’s a talk radio mercenary. He’ll fight for whichever side he thinks will turn him a profit.

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      He’s honestly been right about very niche things for a while, sometimes for the wrong reasons, and never a good person. But he’s sometimes right

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      Everyone getting a Russian paycheck is becoming visible right now.

      Trump had a falling-out with Russia, Russia wants the US out of Israel, so you will notice that every single right-wing pundit who is suddenly screaming about government overreach are also the same ones who have been saying that the US shouldn’t get involved in Israel.

      Seriously, it’s like a line-item list. Owens, Shapiro, Carlson, MTG and whatever other assorted midwits who have spoken out against US involvement in the middle-east, same ones who have had the most glowing praise for Russia or Putin.

      Russia wants the middle-east via Iran and they don’t like Trump anymore because he’s too hard to manage and will likely die soon, so the window for shaping policy is rapidly running out.

      (It’s not going to get better when Trump dies.)

      edit: save your insane replies, I don’t care if it hurts your mental health to learn that the world might be more complicated than you think and there is no real binary of “good guys and bad guys” and absolutely everyone is a bad guy.

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        This comment is almost entirely divorced from reality. Just as bad as the nonsense that trumper dipshits spew. Ben fucking Shapiro has spoke out against US involvement in the Middle East? Lol, pretty much his sole life mission is to ensure that that continues. Gtfo with this shit.

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      i wonder what your response will be once you learn that marjoree taylor green has tried to stop weapons shipments to isreal, but aoc helped stop her… twice

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      I was just thinking this is the perfect meme in this context.

      Not only a good point… He dared to go against supreme leader, despite his much he normally licks boots, and when other more moderate people are licking boot about all this

      I’m confused, but happy to see it.

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      Tucker is scared because kimmel and other media personalities are getting nuked. That’s his money flow at risk, nothing else.

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        Ya know there a principle I am rather fond of, doing good for bad reasons is still good. While Carlson may be a shitstain undeserving of his kneecaps and while he may be doing a good thing for bad reasons, well I’ll take what I can get. We are effectively shrieking into the void like the banshee outside of my window, nobody hears us but they do hear Carlson.

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        Probably, but it’s smart to take allies where you can find them. A lot of right-wingers pay attention to Carlson, and his stance is hitting where left-leaning sources have no pull.

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          Plus if successful at turning us from our allies based on misplaced motivation, they would just lie about those motivations more to us. Then lie to the other side about our own motivations for stuff we agree with them on.

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        He came out in opposition to the Iranian war and was given Ted Cruz the fuck you treatment calling him a dumbass on it. I think that was before Colbert got fired.

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      Similar thing for me recently. Learned musk is against collective shouts censorship. Made me really evaluate why I was against it. Still against it. Censorship limits freedom of speech but so does deplatforming the censors. Weird times

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        Sure, but sometimes the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy. I agree with this one thing that Tucker said. I vehemently disagree with pretty much every single other thing he says, or has said.

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          Yeah same in my situation basically. Also he wants to harass and censor collective shout. It’s not the right way to address this. ACLU already looking into financial censorship and payment procssors. That’s the way I want it handled. Legally and sanely

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        The grammar is ambiguous, FYI, of if you meant the censorship done by collective shout or the censorship being done to collective shout.

        It doesn’t impact my reply, but I figured I’d let you know. :)

        I’m against government censorship in all circumstances outside the cliche “you can’t threaten people or spread injurious falsehoods”.

        I’m okay with private entities not giving people a platform if they aren’t a defacto institution. Credit card companies and financial services should be agnostic to which legal businesses they process payments and hold assets for. Much like how shipping companies are agnostic to what’s in your package, beyond what’s necessary to move it safely.
        If you’re needed for society to function, I want you to blindly service society, even if people I dislike also get service.

        I don’t want to be in a place where every platform needs to accept all participants as valid. There’s plenty of ways to share your viewpoint.

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          That ignores the fact that the government leans on these people behind the scenes. So it is a thinly veiled end run around government censorship, as we have seen with social media, Homeland Security giving lists of names for them to ban for other reasons.

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            I wouldn’t say it’s ignoring it. I’m incredulous that DHS would pressure Facebook to cancel an account or something for the same reason I’m not as bothered by it happening: it doesn’t have real consequences.

            If the government censors you, it can take your money or your freedom. Not only does it have much higher stakes, it has stakes you can’t get around. You can’t go to a platform that doesn’t mind and keep going.

            If the government leans on a company, first of all that’s still government censorship and it’s not legal for the government to get a company to do what it cannot. If the specifics of the behavior are legal, it’s still government censorship and wrong (with aforementioned caveats).
            That being said, the consequence of that type of censorship is loss of a social media account. You can find another venue and all they can do is keep asking people to remove the content. If someone refuses or you host overseas, there’s not really anything they can do.

            There’s a benefit to society, in my opinion, for people to reject an idea. Refusing to help someone spread a message is about the most passive way to do that.

            I’ve worked in the webhosting industry. If someone has a Nazi website and they need tech support, you need to ask yourself if you’re willing to take that support request or if you’re letting your manager know you’re not gonna help that message.
            If the employees at a company don’t want to help you and it’s not unjust discrimination, I have a really hard time saying that it’s wrong to tell Nazis to take their website elsewhere.

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          I agree 100% Sorry I was ambiguous in my last reply. I am against all censorship both by and against collective shout

          I don’t think censoring collective shout helps any of this

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            I’m not aware of the specifics of that group to know how I feel.

            My feelings are more born from looking at webhosting and hate/harassment websites. I have a really hard time saying it’s wrong to take down a Nazi website.
            I don’t think the government should be able to, because as abhorrent as it is it’s still a political position and protected. But if the people you’re paying to host your shit don’t want anything to do with you and it’s not unjust discrimination, I don’t think society gains anything by forcing them to keep it up.

            I also don’t think that applies to monopolies, quasi or defacto.

            I think there’s a benefit to telling hateful groups and people they aren’t welcome in civil society. The alternative is to say that there’s no line at which society can tell you to gtfo, and people just need to tolerate you no matter what.
            Shunning or deplatforming is how you do that without violence.

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    They keep wanting a civil war between leftwingers and rightwingers, but seems more likely they will have a civil war amongst the rightwingers themselves. 🤦‍♂️

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      Could well happen yeah. Though it also seems likely, given how things have gone so far, that an assassin could be on camera with a Nazi swastika on their clothes and immediately after you’d have the right wing media spreading far and wide, “Here’s how the Nazis (National SOCIALISTS) were leftists, actually”

      Maybe some shit about Nazis being pro trans too, I dunno. At this point it feels like they could actually say that and enough people would lap it up