Thank you for citing sources, remarkable that there is statistically an interaction. I wonder what other common phenomena people may be in denial about?
Not closeted people, just those in denial. If you’re in the closet, that means you’re scared of coming out, whereas someone who’s in denial has some unhealthy reason to want to not be gay that leads them to hate that part of themselves.
I just wish there was a clean way to diss them for weaponising their self-hatred. If you think of a really pithy insult for people who externalise their negative feelings, please share with the rest of us, it’s badly needed.
But if there were a slur for hypocrites that word would by definition be attacking them for their behavior since hypocrisy is a behavioral choice and not an element of personal identity.
I’ve actually heard “coon” from a black leftist to refer to black conservatives who try to protect themselves by being “one of the good ones” in the eyes of right-wing racists. The term isn’t something I’m comfortable using myself as a white person, but I don’t think it’s problematic or racist because it’s directed at their harmful behavior and not their skin color.
It’s not blaming homosexuals in general; it’s blaming specifically those homosexuals who help uphold systems of oppression. It’s the same as women who uphold sexism or pickme minorities. They’re using the oppression of others as a shield against their own oppression instead of joining the fight for equality.
I hate this stereotype; it blames bigotry against homosexuals on homosexuals.
So its not entirely just a stereotype. They have done studies on it, and it holds remarkably true. I’ll see if I can find one of them for you.
Edited to add a link to the study: Homophobia study
Thank you for citing sources, remarkable that there is statistically an interaction. I wonder what other common phenomena people may be in denial about?
You know that’s literally not what the study says right… ?
It says there is a correlation between homophobia and sexual arousal from homosexual visual stimulus. I’m not sure what you mean?
It does not say “most homophobes are gay”.
Which is the topic of the thread.
Nah, openly gay homosexuals aren’t bigoted, it’s only the ones in denial.
Exactly.
It’s not accusing the being gay of fucking them up, it’s accusing the unhealthy repression.
Gay people in denial are still gay though. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be in denial
Well said.
oh so much better, it’s just closeted people that are acceptable targets!
Not closeted people, just those in denial. If you’re in the closet, that means you’re scared of coming out, whereas someone who’s in denial has some unhealthy reason to want to not be gay that leads them to hate that part of themselves.
ahh, so much better
How about we just attack homophobic people for being homophobic, instead of using gay as an insult in a roundabout way of calling them a hypocrite?
I just wish there was a clean way to diss them for weaponising their self-hatred. If you think of a really pithy insult for people who externalise their negative feelings, please share with the rest of us, it’s badly needed.
But it’s also just regular hatred, same reason you can’t call racist people the N word.
Even if there was a slur for hypocrites, that’s still just an ad hominem instead of attacking them for their behavior (the actual problem)
I don’t know what comment you meant to reply to, but I was pretty specifically talking about attacking people for what they do.
But if there were a slur for hypocrites that word would by definition be attacking them for their behavior since hypocrisy is a behavioral choice and not an element of personal identity.
I’ve actually heard “coon” from a black leftist to refer to black conservatives who try to protect themselves by being “one of the good ones” in the eyes of right-wing racists. The term isn’t something I’m comfortable using myself as a white person, but I don’t think it’s problematic or racist because it’s directed at their harmful behavior and not their skin color.
There’s a lot of overlap
It’s not blaming homosexuals in general; it’s blaming specifically those homosexuals who help uphold systems of oppression. It’s the same as women who uphold sexism or pickme minorities. They’re using the oppression of others as a shield against their own oppression instead of joining the fight for equality.
I hope no one is saying most misogynists are secretly women.
Steven Crowder might be, though.
I’ll say most misogynists are failed men
It’s blaming only homosexuals.