I appreciate the move, bold for them and the fanbase.
Nowadays probably Dua Lipa, Bruno Mars, Drake and Taylor Swift together could make an impact if they decide to leave (spoiler: no way)The article is behind a paywall/cookie wall. Coukd you provide an another source or an archive link?
evicting JOE rogan would be goodstart from spotify
I’ve been using bandcamp for years, and I feel pretty good about it. I’d spend about $10/month and get 1-2 albums, and now I have a pretty big collection. I’ve been unemployed so I haven’t bought new music, but my library is still here and ad-free.
Bandcamp might enshittify, since it’s privately owned, so make sure you download the drm-free copy of anything you buy.
Bandcamp was sold to Epic Games who then sold it on.
The outlook isn’t great for Bandcamp, but I can’t see any better alternative that supports new artists to the same degree.
Which is great and all, but Massive Attack aren’t on that either.
Bandcamp is better than Spotify - Ampwall is better than Bandcamp. It’s artist owned (developed by Chris from the non-fash Black Metal band Woe). The fees are much, much lower than Bandcamp.
Bandcamp has “Bandcamp Fridays” when 100% of the sales go to the artists. The next ones are on October 3rd and December 5th.
Problem is ampwall basically has a non viable business model beyond it’s current scale. So it’s likely to never really replace other options. It’s good to have around tho.
In the Ampwall business model the artists pay to upload their music but listening is free.
Sounds fine for hobby musicians, but not for anyone professional.
Bonus points for purchasing on bandcamp fridays (more money goes to the artists). Two left in 2025: Oct 3 and Dec 5.
No one should use garbage Spotify!
Honest question, how else do I easily discover music that matches my taste if I don’t use a streaming service?
- Talk to other human beings about music.
Music is not meant to be a solitary hobby. Share what you like, they’ll share what they like.
- Like a piece of music? Look up that producer, or record label if it’s small. Look up the session musicians. Don’t just look up the artist.
Generally it’s not just the artist that makes the music top tier. There are other great professionals involved in the background and good people hire other good people to work in the background.
This is easy. Once you start doing this you end up with a queue of albums you want to get round to listening to. It’s easy enough to find too much music yourself without an algorithm. You start finding the artist radio a waste of your time.
The rabbit holes I’ve been down following a producer, guitarist, or bassist, etc. are usually very rewarding and often you pop up in another place you knew already after finding out about some lesser known great music on the way.
Honest question: I discover at maximum 1 new song that I like per week. I listen to metal and hard electronic music. As soon as the song has 20 seconds of intro I skip it. Spotify only suggests songs with long intros or songs that are just growling, which I don’t like too much, or that electronic over saturated sound where you only have bass and nothing else.
How can I discover new songs that I like there?
Personally I’ve been using SoundCloud for the past 10 years at least and it’s been great.
Potentially I Heart Radio to listen to various artists, then internet search to purchase their albums.
Might have to bring back mix tapes and record favourite songs over digital radio!
People in here looking for less evil alternatives to Spotify and you suggest Clear Channel, the company that killed local radio broadcasting and enshittified the airwaves long ago?
Spotify isn’t the only streaming service, it’s just one of the worst, like ethically.
and to answer your question there are sites like Rate Your Music that let you find albums similar to albums you like.
Which one is ethical and not shit? I left Google play music because it turned into a worse version of itself with a half baked rebrand. Didn’t care for tidal much.
I’ve made several efforts to try out Deezer, tidal and Qobuz. Their library just comes up short within 2-3 searches for some of the more niche stuff I want to listen to. Depending on what you listen to they can be great, I’m sure, I’d much prefer using Qobuz but for completeness… I assume the only ones that come close are Amazon and Apple and at that point, why even switch?
I’ve been using listenbrainz for a bit, and it’s pretty good.
Spotify used to do that very well, but the last years it enshittified. Now it’s very difficult to find new artists or new music, heck even finding a playlist that isn’t auto generated by Spotify has become a challenge. Everything is now pushed by Spotify and they select which artists you listen to, the artists that make Spotify more money.
I develop kew (a terminal music player), so I’m biased, but I started kew because I rejected Spotify many years ago.
I think that kew (or other private/offline music players) together with flacs from Qobuz are actually a great alternative to Spotify. Throw in some Bandcamp albums in there for great justice. Once you have a decent collection, you will feel liberated.
I especially think that Qobuz needs more exposure.
I love Lemmy so much cause there’s people that make me feel dumb, and no one that makes me feel smart. It pretty fucking refreshing!
Also thanks so much for your hard work. I got you on a small donation.
Edit: super git ignorant, guessing code berg doesn’t have that button. You got a “buy me a coffee” type thing set up?
Yes I do : https://ko-fi.com/ravachol. Thank you so much!
I LOVE KEW, THANKS FOR MAKING IT! ive used it for years with my CD collection and it beats out everything in comparison.
Hey, thanks, appreciate it.
Not to be stupid (I’m new to trying to get my shit offline and go back to physical media / owning digital copies of all my media) what is a “terminal music player”? I love finding these sorts of projects in my quest to take back my time and money!
It’s a music player for POSIX terminals that you can find on Linux, macOS and FreeBSD.
It looks like this:
Oh, that’s really 'kew. Excellent naming. I’m so snagging this now :D.
Oh nice! Thank you for the screenshot!!
Ohhhh that’s a band’s same
Great band.
Mezzanine is a masterpiece. It could’ve been released yesterday. The sound is timeless.
One of the best albums ever made
Literally listened to it yesterday. I never get tired of it
I only know the House M.D. intro song, but I do like it. Mezzanine, I think?
Mezzanine is the album, the song is an instrumental version of Teardrop
Teardrop.
(Mezzanine is the album)
check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfCylD7YOEg
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First discovered Massive Attack from the soundtrack of the movie Hackers, which came out 30 years ago this week.
If not for the improper title capitalization in the headline, it hella reads like a hacker or group of hackers attempting to delete every song on the service. 🤣
That’s a Banksy? Maybe…
Totally just bought a Massive Attack shirt from their website. Their “Ceasefire Now” shirts with the Doctors Without Borders quote are amazing.
Merch is usually a better way to support them than buying their music even (they get a bigger share of the sale).
Those shirts are indeed awesome, but $42 (American)?!? That’s insane for a t-shirt. Or maybe I’m just being a curmudgeonly old man.
Band merchandise is basically a donation with a reward, it’s not meant to compete on price with store-bought clothing.
I’m ok with paying premium for band shirts even though they’re just basic tees with a print. It’s my way of supporting the artist aside from attending live shows, because streaming their music doesn’t really do anything, and buying physical CDs/vinyl isn’t practical for me.
I see you haven’t bought a band T-shirt in awhile! (also they use materials that have all sorts of fair trade, organic, and social justice certifications) (also I chose one of the $35 ones)
Qobuz crew reporting in
Does qobuz pay artists more?
It does!
that’s so fucking sick, i’m gonna buy their shirts or something
I feel like i am seeing this more and more. I wonder when the tipping point will begin and we start seeing people leave in droves.