I’d add the hardware drivers must be open sourced at the end of support as well, and no drm, patent, reverse engineering legal protections for a out of support Device/chipset

Multivariate analysis suggested that antipyretic therapy prolonged illness in subjects infected with influenza A, but its use was the result of prolonged illness in those infected with S. sonnei. The precise nature of these relationships requires a prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled trial.

On a human level it should just make sense, don’t treat things that don’t need to be treated. If your fever is getting dangerously high, or if it’s preventing you from sleep and you got to work in the morning, use your medicine. But it shouldn’t be the first thing people go for. I have a mild headache I’m going to take some medicine, I have a slight fever I’m going to take some medicine, I have a sniffly nose I’m going to take some medicine. That’s not indicated.

They’re very few panaceas in this world, all medicines have trade-offs.

Sorry I think this is unfounded quackery, and by making this assertion you risk increasing the suffering of others.

https://doi.org/10.1592/phco.20.19.1417.34865

You might not like the advice, but it doesn’t make it quackry. You’re an adult, you can take any medicine you like. But the advice is sound, avoid treating symptoms as a first resort.

It’s incredibly good at responding to infections. That’s why you’re alive.

Taking medicine to reduce symptoms when you’re sick, actually increases the amount of time that you’re sick. You reducing the effectiveness of your body’s fight.

If you find yourself often getting sick, take a look at your overall health, especially your metabolic health. Make sure you’re getting enough sleep, zinc, sunlight, and avoiding sugar as much as you can.

then they should be excised from the platform

We wont have much left to talk about.

Dissent is a critical part of collective conversations, and downvotes are a clean and efficient way to facilitate that.

The key word here, which i agree with, is CONVERSATIONS. downvotes are not a conversation, they are just negativity.

Anyway, we are talking in circles - I’m going to keep growing my communities which means weeding them of uninterested interlopers. I welcome you to spin up duplicates of any of my communities and grow real conversational engagement.

Your entire ethos that you’re touting is about excluding those not part of your personal group. That’s the exact opposite of open and collaborative.

Excluding those who don’t positively engage with the community. Only downvoting isn’t positive engagement. If every post to cars is downvoted by people of fuckcars, and every post to fuckcars is downvoted by people of cars… what does lemmy gain? They know they don’t like each other, no need for throwing hostility at each other.

The public votes on the content of the forum. If that’s unacceptable to you, then that’s on you, not the forum.

A forum composed of people sharing a interest, I agree. But to use the cars illustrative example again, there is no value in having every cars post downvoted by the fuck cars people… it’s just noise, the members of the cars community are not served by it.

Update - I should add the moderators of small communities work hard to provide content, just letting negativity flow at them discourages lemmy from growing as every community starts small.

I think our schism is philosophically intractable. I don’t see the fediverse as one single homogeneous space. I see it as many small pools of heterogeneous activities and people. That can cross pollinate, cross communicate, and cross collaborate.

You’re also asking the entire platform to bend to your will, to allow you to express your negativity wherever you like. I don’t think that’s sustainable for Lemmy either.

I respectfully disagree, allowing a tyranny of negativity to rein simply because people have a niche belief - like AI, or diets, or religion, or politics isn’t good for lemmy. It stifles the growth of lemmy, because everyone has some niche interest that should be part of the fediverse.

If every single part of the fediverse is for open referendum, that’s going to chill lots of participation; it’s much easier to hate many things, then to be so interested in something that you stick your neck out and brave the negativity.

If you really want to rage against some content, cross post it and have at it.

Yes one side of the door is for the community members, the other side of the door is for everyone else.

I’ve explained my philosophy comprehensively here: https://hackertalks.com/post/13884733

If you can find something inconsistent in that i’m happy to hear about it.

Hi I’m the wackjob, communities are places around the topic, and they’re focused on people who want to talk about that topic. If you go to the chess club and you want to talk about motorsports, it’s not going to be great for people. You be asked to leave eventually. Especially if you keep revving your bike in the chess club.