Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.
Archived: https://archive.is/Ow3FE
Here is an archive of the DOJ site in question. They had to be sure they took it down before Vance hopped on Kirk’s nazi podcast to spout lies claiming the opposite of objective reality.
Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.[2] A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic-related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions.[3]
There’s a West Point study that had it’s link changed so that news articles referencing it got a 404 error. It still exists, but it has to be searched for directly to be found.
https://ctc.westpoint.edu/terrorist-groups/violent-far-right-terrorism/
If anyone wants to see it.
Edit: y’know what, here‘s more just in case anyone wants them before they disappear.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35236192/
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states
Own it you fucking twats.
Their feelings don’t care about the facts
That’s so perfectly typicsl for the right.
It’s really very simple - if the evidence shows that one of their beliefs is wrong, then their principles dictate that they have no choice but to… bury the evidence.
Not solely a right tactic. You also see this with product studies sponsored by big corporations.
Sort of.
I mean - yes - corporations do it, but for them it’s a simple business strategy. It’s not a matter of whether they want to believe it or not - it’s just that that information getting out would hurt their profits and nothing matters more than their profits.
But for right-wingers, it’s some sort of weird cognitively dissonant delusional dogma thing - like if they can successfully hide the evidence to the contrary, that’ll somehow make their beliefs actually true. They’ll be able to face the new day, confident that their beliefs are true, because after all, nobody can prove otherwise, right?
I think there are those people for sure, but this instance seems more in line with what the corporations are doing. I doubt the DOJ and the people responsible for this decision care one way or the other about the reality of the situation. They care about what hurts their “profits” which in this case isn’t money so much as political capital.
Well, “study” is already such a radical-left, woke concept! Like all those “studies” about vaccines. True MAGA Patriots go by gut feeling and by other things that are also produced in the guts!
You know if we actually wanted to get rid of these people it would be really easy. All we have to do is release some deadly but preventable disease. Then encourage everyone to get vaccines.
The problem with covid is that it wasn’t really deadly for most people. So they got sick and were probably miserable but they never learnt their lesson.
A friend of mine, always with a non optimal immune system, had planned a wedding anniversary vacation to Mexico in 2009 but refused to get a shot against the Mexican Flu…
Within a week of his vacation he got infected with the Mexican Flu, which by then was a pandemic… (the western world almost forgot about this one) He quickly was transported to an ER in his home city, tubes sticking out of him everywhere, no one allowed to visit him beyond the airlock… Eventually he recovered but it took at least a year to feel sort of healthy. Claimed he regretted not getting the H1N1 (Mexican Flu) vaccine.
He got a flu-shot a year after, but after the 2nd year he refused “if I get one I get a stuffed nose for a full month”.
When I reminded him of not learning a lesson from the Mexican Flu, he claimed it wasn’t that bad…
Almost had no proper recollection of being in emergency care with tubing all over his body…Year 5 after his H1N1 adventure he had been without flu shots for a while, got another flu, was badly ill for 6 weeks, lost his job because of it… Tried to convince himself it was a younger worker who stole his job…
We broke contact after a while where it was clear he was willfully spiraling downward into a black hole of denial and blaming others.
So, yeah, folks like that do not learn a lesson, not even if they end up very ill and it having lasting effects on their life, there is a pressing need to find another person to lay blame on.
I have no words honestly. Ever since the Kirk shooting, things are spiralling further down and getting to a point of no return. I think war is going to erupt soon between fascist far-right groups and everyone else. Not just in the U.S., but in Canada, too.
I’m afraid you might be right. Although I think that some specificities of canadian culture might help us or at least slow down those changes.
I dunno. Hate groups have become much more bolder and appearing in public spaces. Have their own podcasts and their own media networks (Rebel News and Ezra Levant, etc.) They’re also forming militias, training for combat and firearm use, and even infiltrating the military forces to recruit new members. Source Source 2 Bands with allegiances to these groups have also produced music with hate speech and racist lyrics, talking about bringing back gas chambers, etc. This is no joke.
And we’ve got… uh, legions of angry Québécois.
Edit: for the record I am a Québécois, and I happen to be very angry at all of this.
The right wing are bad people and we need to stop pretending it’s just a difference of opinion. They in several fundamental ways suck.
And yet everyone’s all like “oh Goebbels was a gifted marketer and father we can’t say mean things”. Fuck 'em. They can choose to stop being shit any time they want. Until then, they deserve nothing but scorn.
I can accept that this current government in the USA is packed with the absolute most morally bankrupt people in America, but I just can’t conceive of the idea that 52% of Americans are the same.
What’s that in adults like 110 million? I’m not sure how many kids they have over there.
There just isn’t any chance that all those people are monsters too and you ain’t had a civil war. It seems more likely that most Americans have been propagandised by the media and they just only see what they want to see. I doubt every republican voter is watching the stuff we see as let’s be frank we’re likely all terminally online and more connected than they’re and it ain’t even my county.
Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.
As say this as in the UK I know people that believe some crazy stuff about illegal immigrants (this term sucks and is a non issue) which has them wanting to kick them out and stuff but these people are not like that and get on with people from other countries but right now they’re blinded by the complete bombardment of that kind of content.
Maybe I’m naive, but I feel unlikely as I’m usually incredibly cynical.
77,302,580 Americans voted for Trump out of a total of 340,865,045 individuals. That makes the total number of Americans who wanted some part of what’s going on strongly enough to take some action is roughly 23%. 75 million Americans voted for Harris and 37 million Americans were registered, but did not vote which is roughly 33%.
Only 55% of the country is registered to vote so it’s really hard to tell what the 45% of Americans who aren’t registered feel politically, but it’s probably safe to assume if they can’t be bothered to vote, they’re probably not down for the civil war remix.
Of the 23% who voted conservative in 2024, not all of them hold far right beliefs. It’s hard to say what fraction of that population would fall on the far right, especially because Trumpism itself holds some far right ideology. Even assuming half of all republican voters are ready and willing to engage in a civil war, that’s only 35 million people or 11% of the population.
They’re really loud online and currently have control of the government, but there really aren’t that many of them. There are far more people who don’t care, centrists, democrats, and leftists.
It’s more like 1/3 because 1/3 of Americans don’t vote. Also, that 1/3 that votes Republican is the most politically uninformed 1/3. And many of them don’t actually know what the people they vote for believe, they just vote R because they always have.
I tried to find a study I read a year or two ago about how informed voters were. It kind of shocked me that it was really close between the Rs and the Ds. Neither voter was particularly well-informed, just tribal.
I went looking out of curiosity, and the first study my search turned up found:
We have established and replicated a clear experimental effect in which subjects randomly treated with political information shift their preferences toward the Democratic Party. We draw the conclusion that, in contrast to previous observational work, the current deficit of political knowledge in the electorate actually benefits the Republican Party.
Fowler, A., & Margolis, M. (2014). The political consequences of uninformed voters. Electoral Studies, Volume 34, 2014, 100-110. [https://doi.org/10.1016/j.electstud.2013.09.009]
I’m not trying to refute your statement or the assertion that you saw the study you describe; I just found this bit interesting and worth adding here.
Quintez Brown attempted to kill Democratic Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky, Craig Greenberg, in February 2022. Brown was motivated by Black nationalism, pan-Africanism and revolutionary socialism.
I dunno, to me revolutionary socialism is something I equate with “the left”.
Still, 1 out of 30 ain’t bad.
