Senate Republicans are grumbling that President Trump undercut their strategy for ending the government shutdown when he said that he’s willing to cut “the right deal” with Democrats on health care.
Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) scheduled three votes this week on a House-passed bill to reopen the government and keep it funded through Nov. 21 but failed to pick up any additional Democratic votes for the measure.
Some Republican senators worry Trump’s remarks convinced many Democrats the president will eventually make significant concessions.
One Republican senator who requested anonymity to avoid angering Trump said that the president’s comments about being open to a “deal” with Democrats had “muddied” the Republican shutdown strategy.
So far, their “strategy” seems to be to blame their shutdown on the Democrats.
And luckily it’s not working
trump wants a shutdown, he’ll sabotage any efforts to reopen the government.
So he’s giving Dems false hope, but only a total fucking idiot like Chuck Schumer would be trying to negotiate with trump in 2025 from across the aisle and expect good faith
No, I disagree here.
Trump wants his name in the headlines, and also wants to make deals he can “win” (whatever that means). There is always room to negotiate whenever Trump is in charge. You should expect him to break any “deal” immediately, though, so you should not make any deals that do not have an immediate payoff.
The Project 2025 folks, on the other hand, want to make government so small it can drown it in the bathtub. They would shut down the (non-military) government permanently if given the chance.
Ultimately, I think this is why Democrats are picking this fight now. They think they see a window where they can make the two factions fight. I am not sure it will work, but it looks better than doing nothing.
Perhaps, but with his advanced dementia I wonder if he might get the Democrats and Republicans confused.
There’s a good chance he starts slipping into the past to when he was a neo liberal donor to such an extent he had the Clinton’s at one of his weddings…
Like how Biden kept slipping to the “good old days” when he’s fight against school desegregation in the day, or push Clarence Thomas onto the SC, and then enjoy whiskey and cigars with Senate Republicans.
I think a big reason trump is so mad at the left for “not being nice” is he keeps slipping back to when neoliberal Dems in powerful positions wouldn’t stop kissing his ass for donations.
He could very well just not understand why they don’t like him now…
Yeah, I also disagree. Trump is not now, nor was he ever a brilliant strategist. This shutdown is bad, and he knows it, so he’s going to try to make a deal so he can autograph more of his books. He doesn’t give a single shit about government, the country, or party lines. He will sellout everyone, no question.
This shutdown is bad, and he knows it,
He may or may not understand it’s bad for most Americans…
But he absolutely understands that if the House goes back in session they have to seat new members, which means the House has the votes to force an official vote to release the Epstein list, which could very well actually pass…
He’s not a brilliant strategist, but he cares what happens to himself, and every cabinet member has a vested interest to keep him personally in power, and to keep him aware of threats to his leadership.
And the Epstein list and losing control.of the House are pretty much the only two things on that list, both of which are highly relevant here.
It may sound like a deep cut to you, but this is the main and really only shit he cares about.
The Epstein list isn’t a major deal. As shocking as that is, it’s the real truth. So, what happens when they release the files? He gets more convictions? The Epstein files are just as much smoke and mirror as anything else he posts. He’s the president, elected after being convicted, not charged, convicted. None of it matters to him. Your “deep cut” was as deep as a puddle, broseph.
. None of it matters to him.
You legitimately think trump doesn’t care about the Epstein list?!
Your “deep cut” was as deep as a puddle, broseph.
It’s not deep at all…
That was the point, saying it was superficial…
You completely misunderstood it, fucked around, and agreed with me despite still not understanding what I’m saying.
I’m not even mad, I’m impressed
Party members worry Leroy Jenkins is undercutting their raid strategy.
They blame Trump because they’re so mystified that Democrats are actually showing resolve and unity (minus fascism collaborators Fetterman, King, and Cortez). This is such an unexpected outcome that they think there must be some external factor. I’ll admit, I’m a bit surprised too.
For once, Democrats have got the framing right… and even then they stumbled into it and found their footing after a week.
Congress is one of the few government institutions getting paid, it’s the Republican leaders setting the business of the day, and if they are limiting it to their unpassable bills then that’s their fault. Johnson also isn’t doing any legislative work at all when he is being paid to, because that would lead to the new rep getting sworn in and more Epstein files being released.
So yeah, no matter how much Fox News spin is put on it, the fact that Republicans have been in charge of every federal government branch this year, the courts, the House, the Senate and the Executive yet they are still stumbling to an opposition that merely asks for a couple minor concessions should be apparent.
They have a strategy? It seems like they just dislike anything about opening files.
Yep. Having a strategy requires strategy.
as someone not allowed to vote not sure why everyone keeps voting for republicans or democrats and expecting better
it is an unsolved mystery
True. Both sides are the same. You’re so smart.
Just some snarky comment like the democratts or republicans make? No formal rebuttal disputing my claim with facts?
Also beyond a both sides issue when both parties are engaging in different dynamics of the same drama with one being the hero party and the other playing the ones against the hero in a modern football politics theater fashion with all the bread and circuses included while excluding all the meat and all for the benefit of the owner class but at the same time both parties profess loudly that they are for the people and that the other party are the vile traitors out to destroy our country and rob us of our wealth
Typical democratic/republican response that mirrors the landscape of the United States today currently and that of yesteryear Germany about a hundred years ago
If was so smart would not be asking why honestly can not fathom why this continuity after so many failed promises and obvious alliances to others that are not the everyday citizens
If was so smart would not be asking why honestly can not fathom why this continuity after so many failed promises and obvious alliances to others that are not the everyday citizens
Remind me, which party is shutting down the government because they want to abolish the Affordable Care Act?
You ask for facts to counter your argument, but you have no argument. You just said: “Both sides are bad.” Without any reasoning or supporting facts.
You are the guy in 1935 saying: “Well at least the autobahn is getting built, this really helps the average citizen.”
if both parties have failed to do anything in X amount of decades then why keep voting either party in even if for the sake of argument the two are completely different and detached from one another
doing the same thing over and over but expecting the outcome to be different is insanity but here we are back and forth about that not being the fact here
neither of the two parties regardless of feelings have lived up to their respective party goals nor have they lived up to the expectations of the citizens such as healthcare/living wages/etcetera
why keep defending them what have either party done to gain such respect and admiration and blind following
last president thought his kid was above the law and that schools should be segregated but only trump deserves to called out even though the last presidents vp worked with trump during trumps last presidency to secure the building of oil pipeline by using police and forceful tactics on protestors
we need new representation but keep voting in same parties
if both parties have failed to do anything in X amount of decades then why keep voting either party
Because the parties aren’t institutional monoliths that never change…
You’re complaining about the 30+ years neoliberals held the chair, and ifgnoring that the voting members elected a staunchly non biased chair, and that the result of him leading a state party for a decade turned a purple state blue, and home of some of the most progressive and popular Dems in the country…
You can’t wait for billionaires to tell you that the billionaires lost control of the DNC.
When it happened they started shitting on the DNC and trying to depress turnout.
Dem primaries have literally never been as important as they will be the next three years. We can waste this chance
No formal rebuttal disputing my claim with facts?
No one owes you their time. If you want to have a genuine conversation, put the effort in yourself rather than starting with an inflammatory opinion and expecting others to do the work of disproving you.
Thanks. It’s always a good reminder that 80% of the people on here are children.
