• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 days ago

      “forcing doctors to write clearly legible notes will kill people” is probably my favourite take this month

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        How many patients and complex issues do you see a day? Do you really believe every patient only needs a panacea and out?

        Shorthands were designed so none waste time, even you. Just because you choose to write out your sentences very clearly and detailed, doesn’t mean every profession should.

        Now, tell a Judge to write out their verdicts.

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          Hi, state certified pharmacy technician here. I’m the guy that receives and types prescriptions. Shorthand is absolutely a thing; “tk 2 t po q 8 h” is a pretty reasonable example that translates to “take two tablets by mouth every 8 hours.” Legibility is a completely separate issue. If I can’t read it, I take it to the pharmacist. If they can’t decode it, we skip it, file it, and request a new one. When the patient comes to get it, we tell them we need a new script, and that we’re waiting for the prescriber to get back to us. But, sure, go ahead and tell me that illegible scripts aren’t real and can’t hurt patients.

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            5 days ago

            We are both in agreement that undecipherable messes shouldn’t exist. However how far will governments like India regress improvements in handwriting?

            The hypocrisy I’m demonstrating is that politicians in India shorthand. And the judges that handed this verdict did not handwrite this at all.

            Common folks are ignorant because they choose to be. But even the article admitted chemists are not being held by the same standard healthcare is. Why should one profession suffer when others do not?

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      7 days ago

      Shorthand isn’t scribbles, you are correct. But not everyone can read shorthand, and furthermore, the bulk of doctors don’t use it, and rather use actual scribbles and some medical shorthand / abbreviations (I’m speaking from experience in the USA). I have had to have doctor’s re-issue prescriptions because they just put gobblygook on the paper that no one can read. What am I to do with that? I can’t just read their minds and / or guess what the doctor ordered???

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        7 days ago
        1. Thank you for the actual nuance.
        2. The “scribbles” in the article are clearly Gregg shorthands.
        3. I also don’t work in a nation of 24+ competing languages, but even in Japan we use standardized shorthands&scripts. I’ve read many horror stories in the 🇺🇲, and how you can malpractice and state hop to never get prosecuted.
        4. It just angers me these politicians can write “scribbles” too, and healthcare can’t.
        5. I would hate to standardize🇮🇳 shorthands, I would hate to standardize 🇺🇲.
        6. Let’s end gobblygook 🤝. Leave shorthands alone.