• Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      Honest, genuine question: would there be any point in this descent into fascism where you’d give up on this tactic?

      I suppose I can still understand it at this stage: most conflict is still abroad, only 9 months in to the presidency, and the Epstein revelations are still fresh, but how long will you push this?

      Will you still be shouting about Epstein once the first protestor is killed by ICE? What about after the first civilian doors are busted down? What about after trans people are definitively criminalized? What about after the first train is loaded up? What about after the first mass grave is discovered? What about after a few tens of thousands of Americans have been exterminated?

      I’m not saying everything above is going to happen, but supposing they did, would you still be shouting Epstein? Because at this point, it appears as if you, along with the rest of the Epstein crowd, will be shouting about it regardless of however far we are into the fascist descent. I dont understand that.

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        Agreed. I’ve said it before, at this point they could release video of Trump fucking kids and absolutely nothing would happen. We’re in the belly of the beast.

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        Kudos for trying to engage, but I just look at the comment history and block if it’s a series of Epstein images. It makes threads much more readable when I filter out all the people who never post an original thought

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          Sorry your attention span is that short, scroll further and you could have learned something interesting. I started this community, and we’re going through with it.

          I don’t know what all the people here think is accomplished with all this “he could do that on live tv and nothing would happen”. You’re the reason this is happening. You’re making an active choice to believe nothing can be done.

          Might as well take your pants off and stock up on vaseline, you’ll need it. But before you do, please get off Lemmy and go back to defeatist Reddit.

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        I responded lower. There’s actually no point engaging with people who are so happy to bend over and do nothing.

        I’m sorry, the files will come out, there will be an uprising and he will be removed. And that will only be the start. You can screenshot your comment to show to your grandkids.

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          Why are you getting snippy and evasive? My question was honest and genuine. Will you answer it?

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            Honest answer: no. Epstein is the joker card.

            Pull it, and Trump falls. And because Trump falls, and he’s so vindictive, Thiel, Vance, Musk will get damaged or fall too. And then there’s the smart layer of rich pedophiles that will get exposed, not to mention prominent Democrats, SC Justices, the royal family, Wall St. bankers.

            With enough pressure, this will dismantle the current power structure and we can start afresh.

            The war they are fighting right now is to avoid having to lose this one.

            Is it a tall order? Yes, but what is at stake?

            If you have a better plan to bring down the bastards, I’m all ears.

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        I’ve asked similar things before. Not everything they do is to take focus away from Epstein. At this point I’m even convinced they don’t give a shit. They know they could rape a kid on live tv, and absolutely fucking nothing would happen, because too many americans have been brainwashed. Half would say it’s fake, and the other half would condemn “political violence” and call for the democrats to do something about it.

        As a european, I’ve never been fond of USA, but I have absolutely lost every last bit of faith in anyone getting off their ass, and actually doing anything, no matter what the fascists do.

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          Yet when someone like me does, you’re there with the other armchair critics and keyboard warriors to tell us who do stuff to strongly consider not doing shit.

          There’s hypocrisy and then there’s these lot.

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            I am 100% behind any movement doing anything useful, like getting rid of fascists through the only historically proven method of disposal. Through violence.

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              Good, and I’ll be there with you. But until then, let’s keep taunting the toddler so he keeps overplaying his hand.

              I just hope you realise that this “left holding each other to account, and keeping each other honest” is really a waste of energy.

              Either shut up and prep for war, or prep for war and tell us how to do it. Accept that all approaches have some merit, some more than others, but that spending time criticising (and for me to respond to it) is really stupid and pointless.

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      Trump could have sex with little boys on live national TV and it wouldn’t matter any more. I don’t know why the old school democrats keep thinking this will solve anything.