Does it run linux?
This is the phone they announced: https://murena.com/shop/smartphones/brand-new/hiroh-phone-powered-by-murena-pre-sale/#android-without-google
I’ll never understand why privacy companies do this: sell a thoroughly mid-range phone for a flagship price. The privacy OS market in my experience is largely either tech nerds with enough cash to splash out on a new/second unnecessary device just so they can play around with trying to get the new OS working for themselves, until it eventually becomes their daily driver, or poor students who got a beat up phone from their friend’s cousin’s neighbor’s ex-girlfriend’s roommate and are slapping this alternative OS on it to use as their main with all consequences be damned. Obviously there are people in the middle there, but tjoses eem to be the two primary groups. So the bulk of people you’re selling to are those who want a higher end phone primarily, and probably would be willing to pay for it. Instead, they make a mid-range device that has low margins, often in small quantities because they throw in some niche feature that costs a ton to add to the existing design like a hardware kill switch, and then charge flagship phone prices for a mid-range device.
How about something sized as iPhone SE or smaller? This just looks like a mediocre brick that already exists on the market.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought eOS wasn’t trust worthy? I can’t remember why though but I remember reading something about why it wasn’t good to use
I thought eOS wasn’t trust worthy? I can’t remember why though
…seriously? Why do you even repeat it then? The least you can do if you don’t want to fuel rumors is to :
- either ask a genuine question, rather than suggest the answer
or, IMHO better, actually
- take just few minutes to find the claim, one way or another, so that at least people can clarify, either confirming what you found or rather explain why it’s no correct.
I bet you are referring to https://lemmy.ml/post/35472063 simply because it’s relevant recent and (sadly) quite popular… but unfortunately you can read my response, incorrect. OP there has their opinion (they clearly don’t like Murena and /e/OS and prefer alternatives, perfectly fine) but unfortunately, and that’s what honestly piss me off, make claims that are just not true. You can check the details there. Now is it trust worthy or not, that’s up to you, just don’t imagine that Murena services are mandatory in /e/OS based on that posts because (as others in this thread also confirmed) it is just a lie.
Nope that’s just FUD from certain other OS developers who are super toxic against literally everyone
Two things:
-please let it have a processor meaningfully better than an A13 Bionic (the iPhone 11 processor, my current phone, a 6 year old chip at this point)
- do Murena phones with eOS have the full play services API working?
Better than Play Services, microG the European open source alternative
It’s not an alternative, it’s more of a floss implantation, but it still contacts Google servers
You can disable the feature that contacts google servers, but then you won’t get push notifications
Well, it’s as paintful to use as a lineage os phone w microg (not a full implementation). If you want security and usability, use GrapheneOS.
does eos have well known pitfalls in this regard?
No AVB yellow state on most devices (bootloader relock with custom keys), MicroG (while actually a cool project) Isn’t a fully functional implementation (no Chromecast if you enjoy self harm, no U2F, FIDO authentication, etc.), you also can’t use safetynet (for banking apps) with unlocked bootloader
This is actually incorrect, on almost all devices that Murena sells the bootloader is locked. I think you are confusing their official builds with their community/volunteer builds
Wow, so it’s actually somewhat decent. If I had money to actually choose a phone, I would still prefer GOS.
Gos only subdues to Google phones, this is actually it’s own project