• Devolution@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Trump is too stupid to coordinate window drops of rich people. Vance scares me as he isn’t stupid…

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      Vance scares me as he isn’t stupid…

      he’s just so flexible. going from ‘trump is hitler’ to being his running mate puts the spinelessness of a sea cucumber to shame.

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    Call me crazy, but I don’t think anything is going to get better in this country until we cancel anti-American propaganda networks on American television.

    I’ve been around long enough to have witnessed Fox “News” and dipshits like Rush Limbaugh cause the current mania we’re experiencing.

    It really is all on them. It wasn’t like this before they showed up.

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    17 hours ago

    Religion, a severe form of mental illness, is the greatest threat humanity faces.

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      Right?

      If I said a flying purple people eater was my lord and savior and that flying purple people eater died for our sins but not before his father, a flying spaghetti monster, instructed an old man to build a space ship that a few humans and two of every animal on the planet (and I guess all the plants too) went on and orbited around the Earth while the flying spaghetti monster supreme being was fucking the surface of the Earth up and then repopulated the planet from space afterward and I went to a pineapple under the sea every Sunday to worship both the flying spaghetti monster and the flying purple people eater, who are actually the same being…would you say I had a severe form of mental illness?

      They walk among us. And they’re clinically insane. And a lot of them have guns.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        Exactly why we’ll never find peace in the middle east. Too many people, whether from opposing religions or even the same religion, quietly listening to their invisible friends constant urges to bomb one another.

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      Good thing there’s an easy and simple litmus test to tell between harmful religion and benign religion

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    That doesn’t sound like it would fly even in the most religious communities.

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      7 hours ago

      I think it’s based on an old quote of Hitler claiming to be Christian which is clearly on votes. But anyone can claim to be a Christian. By their fruits you will know them.

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    17 hours ago

    I’m afraid I’ll go to heaven

    That’s why I’m hoping that I’m right

    My biggest fear ain’t no red Devil

    It’s being near you people all the time

    I’ll be fine as long as you go somewhere else

    https://youtu.be/Epp3PTxzv9g

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Hitler no longer exists. We do, and we have to confront the reality that people like Hitler still find their way into civic office where they can seize power and bring ruin to us all.

    It’s not a good thing for us to imagine a divine justice that balances out the evil wrought by persons past. It may be a brief comfort to suggest that Hitler burns in Hellfire, that Mengele, after living a long life as a fugitive, died a free man, that Heydrich’s torment didn’t end with his dying battle against sepsis, but in the end we have to come to terms that nature is unjust and if we want a world in which good folk thrive and wicked folk fail to survive, this is a society and an institution we’ll have to create ourselves, from scratch.

    And so far, we suck at it.

    Better yet, ultimately we should recognize that people who make poor life choices are still surviving the best they could. In a working society, Hitlers and Trumps would not rise to power, and Heydrichs and Himmlers would not be able to exploit the biases of the system to elevate themselves to aristocracy-adjacent positions. In a working society, the only thing to gain with civic power would be the satisfaction of the fulfillment of one’s duty to society… and that one gets to direct the movement of mountains and the construction of bridges for the betterment of all the community.

    It’s boring, but personally I’d rather constrain wars and torture and genocide to the confines of fiction. Make sports news, whether tragic or glorious, great again.

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      16 hours ago

      In other words, there is no justice. There’s just us.

      It’s up to us to make justice a real thing, because there are no cosmic forces that will do it for us.

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    Yeah… God once told Peter “whoever kills this Hitler dude goes straight up, no questions asked”.

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      13 hours ago

      God later blamed a bac of .12 for his decision, and brought up how awkward it was to have his Jewish kid keep running into Hitler.

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    Let’s assume god was ok with someone ordering the extermination of an entire group of people. Hitler died by suicide and the last time I checked that was still a no-no.

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      Let’s assume god was ok with someone ordering the extermination of an entire group of people.

      Don’t need to assume, we know for a fact he endorses it.

      Deuteronomy 20.

      16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

      A separate fun fact, zionists believe Palestinians are the descendants of amalek. I’ll leave what that implies as an exercise for the reader.

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      Well, God IS quite okay with genocides, AND he killed Hitler. Of course he went to heaven

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      The torture, the sex crimes at all levels, reducing humanity to chattel and ash. If there’s a god that approves of any of that, I’m staying atheist (in fact, the “problem of justice” is a philosophical argument against god, and that applies very much to the holocaust).

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        I assumed it was explicitly forbidden in the book, but instead it looks like the reasoning is “murder is explicitly forbidden and technically, suicide is murdering yourself”

        Btw those “religious” people like to ignore inconvenient parts of the book

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          Suicide is the only murder you cannot ask forgiveness for. (because you are dead and already under judgement for your deeds in life)

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      Not sure we were all told he killed himself. Who knows someone else could of pulled the trigger. But regardless no way he went to heaven. He would have never asked for forgiveness but in his mind he did nothing wrong.

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    There appears to never have been any thought by the oligarchs that have brought us this fascism that it did not work. That giving absolute power to one person is a mistake even when that person isn’t a deranged asshole to start with.

    It didn’t work for the rich people that wanted to protect their investments from the Socialists, and that is about exactly what is going on here, our rich were so scared of a little moderate reform that they created a monster they cannot control that will destroy them if they get what they want destroy them one way and or another.

    They think they are in charge, that they will never run afoul of the supreme leader, that the supreme leader will not tank the economy in 12 different ways, and go ahunting oligarchs to seize their assets. All very mistaken and all going to happen sooner than later.

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      For the life of me I’ll never understand the Authoritarian mindset.

      Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus is a fucking cakewalk compared to understanding the personality differences between Authoritarians and normal people.

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        Actually Men Are From Mars, Woman Are From Venus somewhat sums up the authoritarian mindset. Mars is the god of war, and Venus is the goddess of fertility / beauty. Men fight wars, women have babies.

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          Some of us (the authoritarian men) fight wars in order to dominate and exploit other people.

          Others of us (the non-authoritarian men) fight wars in order to defend against the first type of people, so we can be left the fuck alone and live in peace.

          And sometimes the first group figures out a way to trick men from the second group into fighting for their bullshit causes. Couching a fight for domination and colonialism into a “fight for freedom” and all that.

          Authoritarians are the absolute worst, and offer no benefit to anybody but themselves. They’re parasites.

          If a man wants to be your king and master, the only sensible recourse is to kill that man.

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      Maybe the rich and lazy are actually just dumb as fuck? Scared all alone in their castle sitting on a throne of gold, they’ll believe any con man.

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        My theory is that it’s less that they’re truly dumb as fuck, but rather that they’re not particularly special – or does that make them dumb as fuck, LOL? – and there’s almost a dunning-kruger like effect. They see how powerful they are, able to act with near-impunity, and they don’t realize how much of that has to do with whatever distribution of power and hesitance to use state violence exists in the flawed but democracy-ish systems they’re currently dominating.

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          Yeah, I think this is a lot of it. They have never been told no or told they were wrong and they have come to believe it’s because they are brilliant and infallible, not because they were born powerful and have never not been powerful.

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      Very rich people are generally not very smart, beyond being sociopathic manipulators, if you call that a form of EQ.

      Very rich people are either pampered and priveleged old money, or ruthless two faced psychopaths. Or both.

      Neither of these things really requires any kind of artistic creativity or much analytical ability or broad knowledge set or metacognition / self reflection.

      There ya go.

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      That’s my question too. Hitler shot himself in a bunker. Fascist governments don’t often work out for themselves. What’s the end game for Trump here?

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        I get where prez’s head is at, he is losing it as we speak, falling asleep during televised meetings, reading off of teleprompters as often as not. But everybody else going along with the supreme leader mold is just quite mistaken as to how that will work out for them. I suspect the end result will be a Joseph stalinesque results. Not a single person in leadership will be alive as Supreme leaders tend to get paranoid as shit.

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          Stalin was a man of steel who surrounded himself with tough guys like Felix Dzerzhinsky and Lavrentiy Beria.

          Trump’s cohort will crack like bamboo when he passes and they have to stand on their own.

          Can you actually imagine JD Vance lasting eleven hours under interrogation? Hilary did it without having a hair out of place.

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            Vance will not end up with supreme leader. He will be shunted aside one way or the other I think. That he would not make a good supreme leader is why he was chosen by the president in fact.

            The succession fight will be ugly and perhaps our last chance to take the country back before the fix is in too deep. Even then we would need to win by a large margin and have a muscular campaign.

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              Hitler had one Minister of Propaganda and a thousand hardcore road captains.

              Trump has a thousand propagandists and no one next to him who could actually make a fist.

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                They do not have a shortage of people wanting to fill those spots. Yes they’re incompetence has prevented them from succeeding as of yet, but that was last term, everyone gave up in any position in the establishment this time.

                They’re going for a full court Hitler press.