One more step toward authoritarian wet dreams.
Is Antifa even a group? Like, do they send out newsletters or some shit? Can you buy a hat? Vote for leadership roles?
I thought it was more of a political belief. Wouldn’t that just be calling all left wingers terrorists?
Yes, this is an attempt to label any sane person who is anti-fascist a terrorist. The irony is the likelihood of WW2 grandkids voting in favor of the current fascist. We’re truly fucked as a nation.
Jokes on them, I am "against fascism*
Agafa just doesn’t hit the same though
You are making statements that are not in dispute. This is the way forward for them.
Thats exactly what they’re doing.
Most right wingers don’t like fascists either. See the American “left”
Understood. I will not oppose Fa. I still, however, oppose Fascism.
We need to stop instantly panicking over “Donald Trump declares …” headlines. He can declare that pigeons are spies sent by Martian aliens. He has no qualifications to say so, nobody intelligent should be paying attention, his zealots will still follow his orders, and it doesn’t matter.
As an Uruguayan this gives me a weird feeling. The dictatorship regime here started cause “the need to quash communist terrorists” called MLN or Tupamaros at the time they where revolutionaries at the time but they served more as an excuse, even the Che Guevara warned them at the time. The military repression and overthrow techniques where learnt in the school of americas that now goes by a different name. And you can see how the parallelism happens in the whole region. The scene is very alike and one would dare to think shit gonna be sadly worse on such an influential country. If anything in time you’ll learn the meaning of the phrase
Nunca más…
Por desgracia, hablar en .world sobre el papel que han tenido los Estados Unidos en la propagación y financiación del fascismo en todo el mundo te va a acarrear acusaciones de “tankie”. La mayoría de usuarios de .world son yanquis anticomunistas que van a aprobar toda represión contra los “radicales comunistas”, tachándoles de autoritarios o de pro-Rusos. Como cantaba Carlos Puebla:
“Nada de viejos partidos, colorado y blanco: la nueva esperanza dice Tupamaros, Tupamaros!”
“White House bans the 2001 miniseries Band of Brothers for not paying homage to Charlie Kirk.”
Nasty violent men who should have just debated the Nazis
I don’t understand why it matters. Antifa from what I understand, is anti fascist. Is America fascist, so they need to be afraid of this ‘idea’?
I already know the answer, I just don’t understand why more people especially journalists aren’t asking it.
While I agree with you about the issue, i would like to point out that countries with “Democratic” in their names aren’t shining beacons of democracy. This funny quip is easy to win.
Both. That’s how fascism operates.
I used to think that they were constantly paradoxical to obfuscate their message, but I’m more recently convinced by their anti-intellectual fervor that they might just be so stupid they don’t understand paradoxes.
Just need to make some kind of group that can be denied rights and then start designating everyone you don’t like a part of that group. Antifa being that group is just typical Trump laziness and an exercise to see how far right his base actually is.
“And just like that, Trump was gone.”
The US government designates most of their citizens and almost the entire world (except Israel and the Russian government) as terrorists as antifa means you’re anti fascism. Guess I’m a terrorist now.
As a European, I wish it were only Israel and Russian governments… AfD is polling highest in Germany, Finland elected a far-right government as did Italy, France is well on the way to do that, and possibly so is Spain. At least I’m militant in a communist organization fighting fascism in Spain, proud to have participated and coordinated the anti-genocide mass protests of a week ago, everyone who’s reading this: organize, organize and organize. Join local worker struggles and international worker solidarity with Palestinians, unionize yourself and your coworkers, push for general strike against the genocide in Palestine and for better rights for workers
Fwiw, the President can’t just “declare” that a group is a domestic terrorist organization. That’s a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
We’ve been able to get away with declaring foreign groups as terrorist organizations because they’re not based in America so the government can claim the Constitution doesn’t apply to them.
Of course, we all also know this won’t stop Trump…
It’s never stopped the HF Ideology.
Right now it’s anti-fascists. It used to be Islam. Before that it was hippies. Before that it was commies. Before that it was Native Americans.
Then you kind of split at the Mason-Dixon line. In the south it was Abolitionists.
For all the warmongers here who think it’s fine for the government to boost military spending and dump billions on “defense”.
Good luck.
This applies especially well to Europe. Everyone cheering at military expenditure, let’s see how happy we are when the tanks manufactured during the socdems are in the hands of the European nazis…
Unfortunately, Russia started and continues their war of conquest in Europe and the USA isn’t helping nearly as much as they used to. Europe is the only one who can pick up the slack. And they are.
Defense was renamed war.
Ugh
Now I feel obligated
Since “antifa” is just an idea and not an actual organization, use another term that means the same thing.
That’s the point I think, antifa is a vague term, the more vague the term the more broadly and selectively you can apply it as you want, it’s just a fascist tactic to justify jailing anyone they don’t like
They don’t care. They needed a bogeyman they can use to suppress their “enemies” no matter who they are; now they have chosen it.
Antif-fasc
No Fasc
Sansfa
anti-nazi?
Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government
What did they mean by this
“We can’t just label someone immigrant or trans so we need another term for people who we want to throw into our concentration camps when we don’t like them that is vague enough so that it means everything and nothing.”
Right, this one isn’t about immigrants or trans. It’s about anyone protesting them.
They’re anti-fascist, so they’re anti-US govt, what’s there to get?
You would think a country that is really good at terrorising the world would be better to recognise terrorists.
Oh they are. They understand what they are doing.
Anyone not pro-fascist is a terrorist?
Anyone that challenge government authority is a criminal and it has been the case for a long time.
I’m so confused because I thought the Republican party ran on the “we are all terrorists” premise. Like, who’s on whose side?
We are all terrorists on this blessed day. — Ken M
Apparently, yes!
