Tangentially, I had a hilarious debate with someone several months ago who was convinced the Colbert Report version of Steven Colbert was just who he actually was, and somehow had a significant amount of difficulty understanding that it was a bit… despite how comically fucking obviously it’s a bit. Low key curious if I accidentally came across the guy who invited Colbert to W’s press correspondents gala all those years ago (and may I just say holy fuck his speech at that event was just… 👨🍳 💋 )
He talked about why he left at one point and this was part of it. Because even if he didn’t mean what he said there were still people that believed him.
I seem to remember some study that seemed to indicate that conservatives tend to have a hard time understanding satire. It was around the same time as The Colbert Report being on the air.
You couple this with seeing that cons tend to have overly large/overly active amygdalas, and when you hear them saying that “liberalism is a mental disorder”, I think it’s yet another example of them projecting, since they seem to have certain mental disabilities.
We all have shadows that elude us that others see clearly. I seriously believe modern psychology should integrate that work more into standard CBT/RET.
Hey! We alcoholics do not support any of this bullshit! Most of the times I’ve been drunk off my ass this year has been because of some shit being done by conservative grifters
For what it’s worth, Bush knew it was a roast. Roasting the president is a traditional part of the press correspondents’ dinner (or was, before paper-thin-orange-skin became president). Earlier in that very same dinner, Bush did a bit roasting himself with a Bush impersonator.
Every so often, I used to go back and re-watch the entire thing. It was just so good.
I had to laugh when the “liberal media” was later spinning it the next day (and the hard right outlets like Faux and hate radio picked this up and used this spin - “see, even the liberal media says it was bad!”) as not that funny, it got hardly any laughs in the room, etc.
Yeah, NO SHIT many people in the room weren’t erupting in loud guffaws. He was making fun of YOU motherfuckers, too. Right to your smug little faces.
Just like Orange Jesus didn’t erupt into laughter when years later, Seth tore him a new one right to his face, as did Obama. Orange Jesus sat there, seething. Orange Jesus gave it 0 stars, boo, it was terrible, no more discussion. LOL.
I doubt it. Orange Jesus was already blowing the racist bullhorn with all his birther bullshit and Obama’s election broke the brain of so many Angry White Males. They were bound to rally around someone like Orange Jesus when he ran…
Seth Meyers still apologizes for that, sarcastically of course, but it’s hilarious that enough people blame his joke for jumpstarting Trump’s campaign. Trump seething from his table while everyone around him cracks up is burned into my memory.
I’m sure it makes a convenient narrative for people to blame Seth for this.
Again, notice that it’s another example of Murc’s Law here, by the way: as a conservative, Taco has no agency, he was pushed into running by the nasty liberal cracking jokes and poor Taco just had no choice but to run to get revenge against Obama, against Seth, and against any American that doesn’t love everything related to Taco.
In any case, Taco had mulled running multiple times and even tried to run prior, and failed. All that birtherism stuff he was shoveling during Obama’s administration was likely his racist way of testing the waters for yet another attempt.
The Colbert Report did real work to normalize a specific right wing framing to politics. I don’t think of it as a net positive the way I do The Daily Show. It might have been satire and I too might have enjoyed it from time to time, but it was also part of a normalization of the “both sidesing” of things.
It is only both sidesing if you don’t understand satire. He is pretending to be a right-wing pundit but rephrasing what they say in such a way as to point out how bad the right-wing talking points are.
The fact is that this character played an role in normalizing this shift we saw, across the board, towards accepting this kind of right wing framing of politics. The fact that it was satire is irrelevant. The normalization is damage done.
I would love for Colbert Report to come back.
Him and Stewart should do a “Crossfire” show
Same!
Tangentially, I had a hilarious debate with someone several months ago who was convinced the Colbert Report version of Steven Colbert was just who he actually was, and somehow had a significant amount of difficulty understanding that it was a bit… despite how comically fucking obviously it’s a bit. Low key curious if I accidentally came across the guy who invited Colbert to W’s press correspondents gala all those years ago (and may I just say holy fuck his speech at that event was just… 👨🍳 💋 )
He talked about why he left at one point and this was part of it. Because even if he didn’t mean what he said there were still people that believed him.
A lot of conservatives actually believed he was as he was in the show.
Conservatives historically have never understood sub context, even if it jumps up and slaps them in the mouth.
I was a conservative when Colbert Report was on.
Can confirm. I believed he was a conservative.
Honestly curious. Did you ever watch a full episode of the show or multiple episodes of the show?
I watched it pretty regularly. It took longer than it should have for me to realize that it was a satire.
Maybe three seasons in?
Curious what made it seem so genuine at the time?
Must have been all those “waving American flags” animations. Oh, and that eagle.
I was a conservative when Colbert Report was on and I thought it was obvious that it was a bit.
Well, comedy is a sign of intelligence, so…
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I seem to remember some study that seemed to indicate that conservatives tend to have a hard time understanding satire. It was around the same time as The Colbert Report being on the air.
You couple this with seeing that cons tend to have overly large/overly active amygdalas, and when you hear them saying that “liberalism is a mental disorder”, I think it’s yet another example of them projecting, since they seem to have certain mental disabilities.
We all have shadows that elude us that others see clearly. I seriously believe modern psychology should integrate that work more into standard CBT/RET.
That’s because they’re usually drunk off their ass or one of the grifters.
Hey! We alcoholics do not support any of this bullshit! Most of the times I’ve been drunk off my ass this year has been because of some shit being done by conservative grifters
Not all alcoholics are right wing shit heads, but all right wing shit heads are alcoholics (and/or stupid and/or a grifter).
There are outliers. Several of my teetotaling MAGA family and also Trump himself (though they do fit your modifiers)
It really is a shame we never got that left vs right drink off between Nixon and Hunter S Thompson
For what it’s worth, Bush knew it was a roast. Roasting the president is a traditional part of the press correspondents’ dinner (or was, before paper-thin-orange-skin became president). Earlier in that very same dinner, Bush did a bit roasting himself with a Bush impersonator.
Every so often, I used to go back and re-watch the entire thing. It was just so good.
I had to laugh when the “liberal media” was later spinning it the next day (and the hard right outlets like Faux and hate radio picked this up and used this spin - “see, even the liberal media says it was bad!”) as not that funny, it got hardly any laughs in the room, etc.
Yeah, NO SHIT many people in the room weren’t erupting in loud guffaws. He was making fun of YOU motherfuckers, too. Right to your smug little faces.
Just like Orange Jesus didn’t erupt into laughter when years later, Seth tore him a new one right to his face, as did Obama. Orange Jesus sat there, seething. Orange Jesus gave it 0 stars, boo, it was terrible, no more discussion. LOL.
I genuinely think Obama roasting Trump at the 2011 White House Correspondents’ Dinner changed the course of history
I doubt it. Orange Jesus was already blowing the racist bullhorn with all his birther bullshit and Obama’s election broke the brain of so many Angry White Males. They were bound to rally around someone like Orange Jesus when he ran…
Seth Meyers still apologizes for that, sarcastically of course, but it’s hilarious that enough people blame his joke for jumpstarting Trump’s campaign. Trump seething from his table while everyone around him cracks up is burned into my memory.
I’m sure it makes a convenient narrative for people to blame Seth for this.
Again, notice that it’s another example of Murc’s Law here, by the way: as a conservative, Taco has no agency, he was pushed into running by the nasty liberal cracking jokes and poor Taco just had no choice but to run to get revenge against Obama, against Seth, and against any American that doesn’t love everything related to Taco.
In any case, Taco had mulled running multiple times and even tried to run prior, and failed. All that birtherism stuff he was shoveling during Obama’s administration was likely his racist way of testing the waters for yet another attempt.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-timeline/
I would rather them do something substantive with their power than to continue to normalize right wing views.
That’s exactly what he does, dude.
It works well because MAGA doesn’t understand satire.
The Colbert Report did real work to normalize a specific right wing framing to politics. I don’t think of it as a net positive the way I do The Daily Show. It might have been satire and I too might have enjoyed it from time to time, but it was also part of a normalization of the “both sidesing” of things.
It is only both sidesing if you don’t understand satire. He is pretending to be a right-wing pundit but rephrasing what they say in such a way as to point out how bad the right-wing talking points are.
The fact is that this character played an role in normalizing this shift we saw, across the board, towards accepting this kind of right wing framing of politics. The fact that it was satire is irrelevant. The normalization is damage done.
Tbf, hindsight is 20/20.
No the fact is people like you are too dense to understand satire.
Lemmy seems to be more interested in worshiping its heroes than it is addressing their flaws.
Go look up what the word normalization means.
Nuh uh
Are you saying wingers didn’t accept this right wing framing of politics long before?
They were openly satirizing it. Was that somehow not obvious?
You really didn’t know the purpose of that show?